a democratic house and a democratic senate. all this talk about republican obstructionism, the republicans had a majority of the house the last two years. the first two years of his presidency, he could have done immigration, didn't. could have passed something on gun control, didn't. >> do you own a gun? >> yes. >> what do you have? >> a shotgun. i live in d.c. it's extremely difficult. took nine months. >> who on the panel owns a gun? dan does? kelly, frank? so you two have guns. i repeat, i have no problem with the self-defense element of this. do you believe -- and i've had lots of gun rights people on the show of varying degrees of intellect i guess about this debate. some choose to abuse me. others i found out she had good arguments. do you believe there's compelling elements that an assaults weapons ban if it removed the loopholes would have no effect, zero effect? >> the government studies, the justice department studies about the previous gun ban said it had no effect. we actually have some social science on it. >> it